Just Imagine...

"Thunderface" (thunderface) 01/12/2015 at 14:43 • Filed to: Ford

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A new GT or Mustang with a Powerstroke diesel. 6.7 litres of V8 rediculousness. 440hp/860lb-ft and would go like stink.

Would definitely DD.

Cherry_man1 > Thunderface 01/12/2015 at 14:44

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I won't cause that's just stupid.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Thunderface 01/12/2015 at 14:45

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Mmmmmm......no. Don't ruin an already awesome thing for me.

While we're at it, let's put the GT's V6 in the next GT350 or GT500, seriously! :D

Jcarr > Thunderface 01/12/2015 at 14:47

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Except that engine weighs ~1,100 lbs.

Rock Bottom > Thunderface 01/12/2015 at 14:49

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Aaaaaaaaaand you just added 600 lbs to the ass-end. And lost 160 hp in the process. And the engine's too tall to fit, so the aero is now shit. So, no.

Milky > Thunderface 01/12/2015 at 14:50

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Remember that one time Audi had a V12 TDI with 500hp and 740lb-ft, then showed off a hot ass R8, but only put the engine in the Q7? Yea, they dropped the ball.

Thunderface > Rock Bottom 01/12/2015 at 15:26

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Backyard swap anyways!!

1337HPMustang > Rock Bottom 01/12/2015 at 15:40

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torque is actually the absolute measurment of power, so technically it's more powerful

Rock Bottom > 1337HPMustang 01/13/2015 at 09:05

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Sorry, but you're wrong.

Power, in this case as used when measuring the performance of a rotating machine, is a combined unit with both "torque" and "rotational velocity" terms. See the equation at the bottom for a simplified description of the Horsepower unit. Wikipedia does an adequate job of explaining how the equation is derived.

Torque is independent of rotational velocity. a 600 hp engine will always makes more power than a 460 hp engine. Every day. Forever. In the EcoBoost-vs-Powerstroke case, it does this because it can multiply it's lower torque by a higher rotational velocity. The diesel engine will likely reach it's maximum rated rotational speed long before the gas engine does. The gas engine will then be able to continue multiplying it's lower torque number by considerably higher rotational velocities. That's how machines work, and that's also why a transmission can multiply torque, but not horsepower. Horsepower remains constant through a gear-set (except for a loss due to an efficiency term, which I'll ignore for now) because of this relationship between torque and rotational velocity.

Regardless, your statement that, and I quote: " torque is actually the absolute measurment of power " is incorrect. Sorry.

1337HPMustang > Rock Bottom 01/13/2015 at 09:44

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Torque times rpm =hp. Hp is dependent on torque, is it not? So the more torque an engine has, the more potential it has. I don't know exactly, I'm not an engineer but I'm not gonna believe you since the internet tells convincing lies. Cite me something if you want to teach me

Rock Bottom > 1337HPMustang 01/13/2015 at 09:49

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Well, I am an engineer. Your understanding of the derivation of engineering units is a little weak and I don't really feel like running you through half a decade of education, so you're going to have to trust me on this. Torque, despite what you think, is not "the absolute measurement of power".

1337HPMustang > Rock Bottom 01/13/2015 at 10:37

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Well I guess not technically. Absolute was probably the wrong word. My point was people forget that two engines with the same hp aren't necessarily equally powerful. Like the 4.6 in my mustang isn't as "powerful" as the 7.3 powerstroke in my truck despite them having the same horsepower output